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Old 04-19-2012, 12:18 AM   #2736
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Originally Posted by pylon View Post
That is a far cry from suggesting that all gays should burn in a lake of fire. One is an opinion on social dynamics, one borders on hate speech you would expect from the Phelps family.

I am done in this thread, and primarily wanted to let Firstlady know how the decision of her great leader to not boot this buffoon has cost her party my vote.
... Except that's not the quote. The word should does not appear in the quote. Total difference in meaning. If you can find a quote from Huntsburger saying that he wishes all homosexuals to burn in a lake of fire, then everything changes. Until then, he's just tactless and uncaring, but not bigoted.

Now, I don't want to support Huntsburger, because I know that some level of bigotry often accompanies people who say that message in that way. It's unloving, and uncaring, and Christians in the past have, through word and action, elevated homosexuality as some kind of greater sin than other sins. I probably thought that way previously in my life. And it is discrimination, and frankly, I hate that it has happened.


But, simply saying that something is a sin, isn't bigotry. It can be said without hate, malice, or discrimination. Personally, I wouldn't say that message like that at all. Also, the quote as said by Huntsburger isn't in agreement with the Bible. If one type of sin keeps people out of heaven, than all types of sin would, and thus, no one would get to heaven. Also, it is an important distinction to note that "being gay" is nowhere condemned in the Bible (except in some outdated translations/versions that should not be relied on), only homosexual acts are warned against. Essentially, homosexuals are only held to the same standard as unmarked heterosexuals. Anyways, this isnt the place to get too much deeper with this discussion. It just bugs me when Christians are called bigots simply for stating what the Bible says. There is some bigotry and the like within our ranks, unfortunately, and it needs to change. I do see that some change is happening, as many Christians realize that the old way of thinking was leading to the church becoming increasingly irrelevant to the outside society, in part due to the hypocrisy in the way the Church has treated homosexuals, treating them differently than anyone else.
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