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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Because it has no degree of apllication, it requires an immediate readyness to apply lethal force and you have to have the gun in your hand and be aware of what is going on, generally muggers thugs and drunken husbands don't give you that advantage.

Case in point the Fort Hood massacre, 13 dead 31 wounded, I would imagine every single victim had a gun, many of them on their person, all were well trained and well able to defend themselves, what they didn't have was forewarning. If someone is trying to shoot you, a burgler or disgruntled collegue or the like they are walking around with a gun in their hand, even if you have a gun on you, you are still effed in that situation, as the chances are you won't know what is happening or even if you do know someone is shooting people you don't know who it is, you won't be expecting that someone is trying to kill you, you will only realize this when the shooter opens up your office door and puts 3 or 4 rounds into you.

Having a gun gives you no advantage what so ever against someone else with a gun, you may be on even terms, but chances are if they are a better shot or have their gun out or has a bullet proof vest or is behind you or just knows what is going on when you don't then you're dead.

A good example is those 4 cops getting gunned down in a donut shop near Seattle a couple of years ago.