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Originally Posted by vektor
eating too much meat is much worse than eating too many vegetables or fruits because of the fact that most meats are not real food. Most meats come between two patties, they're infused with preservatives or they are fried. The very reason you say to eat real food is the same as why I say eat mostly fruits and vegetables. Walk into the grocery store, in the produce section you have mostly real food and then pretty much the rest of the store is all fake and or processed food, unless you get some fresh cut meat. Whole grains are important, and cutting them out completely is a mistake, I agree.
That's why I said a diet mostly of fruits and vegetables with the extreme emphasis on vegetables. Too much of one thing over another is bad for you, but if you had to live on one food group the best choice would be vegetables especially the green and leafy ones. I've lived on Kale, Spinach, Celery and Broccoli and felt fine. I've also lived on Cheeseburgers and fries and I felt like dying, so yeah, eat real foods.
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I guess we just disagree on this, Vektor.
I believe that animal products are just as important to health as fruits and vegetables. Of course, I also buy all of my meat from a local farmer's market where all of their animals are 100% free range and grass finished.
Speaking of feeling like death, I used to live a block away from an extremely popular vegetarian / vegan restaurant in Vancouver. (I try to avoid the place like a Ron Swanson, but my wife likes it, so we go occasionally). It's like the walking dead in there. Seriously. I find it hilarious that these vegemites walk around like they are perfect health incarnate. Yet every one of them looks pale, or worse, grey, and all of the women have zero lean muscle mass and impressive muffin tops. (Not saying your fruit and veggie diet is unhealthy, Vektor, just a little anecdote)
PS. I think you'd be surprised at the nutritional content of healthy animal products. I think it was Robb Wolf of The Paleo Diet who spoke of a study where they blended up either grass fed meats or a variety of vegetables and had an independent lab analyze the 'paste'. Each time they did it, the animal specimen showed higher amounts of virtually every nutrient. Don't quite me on this though. The gist is correct, but I'm going off a few years memory here.