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Old 03-31-2012, 11:43 PM   #152
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Originally Posted by SeoulFire View Post
You are still walking around the assertion without actually addressing it. To lay out how I see this I think I should clearly define how I view gender and sex.

Sex - biological/physiological.
Sex categories - Male/Female, boy/girl, man/woman

Gender - refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, activities, and attributes that a given society considers appropriate for men and women.
Gender categories - masculine/feminine

So and individual or society may define gender as either masculine or feminine based on their actions as they fit into the social construct of gender. The individual then mentally re-categorizes themselves in a different classification system (sex) that influences but does not define gender. Therefore they are a different sex?

I am sorry but I am not clear how that last jump is made. If you accept that sex is defined by biology/physiology then it is clearly a jump that cannot be made.



is a far cry from:



if you accept 'male' and 'female' as sex categories. You seem to be blurring the lines between the two where convenient.
You can't mentally reclassify yourself to change your physical body. In the context of what I was responding to, about referring to a person as male when they physical present as female, then I would of course use the female descriptor. If that was confusing to you, then I apologize, but I did not think a greater amount of detail was necessary in that post.

Let me rephrase it now, so you that you can understand what I meant.

If someone is presenting themselves as a biological female, and society were to accept them as having the normal traits, appearance and demeanor of a typical female, and someone were to refer to that person as a male then they would have violated the social norms appropriate to that situation.
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