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Old 03-31-2012, 11:14 PM   #150
SeoulFire
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You are still walking around the assertion without actually addressing it. To lay out how I see this I think I should clearly define how I view gender and sex.

Sex - biological/physiological.
Sex categories - Male/Female, boy/girl, man/woman

Gender - refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, activities, and attributes that a given society considers appropriate for men and women.
Gender categories - masculine/feminine

So and individual or society may define gender as either masculine or feminine based on their actions as they fit into the social construct of gender. The individual then mentally re-categorizes themselves in a different classification system (sex) that influences but does not define gender. Therefore they are a different sex?

I am sorry but I am not clear how that last jump is made. If you accept that sex is defined by biology/physiology then it is clearly a jump that cannot be made.

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If she presents herself as female and considers herself female, then she is female.

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is a far cry from:

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People's minds define what their gender is and their body defines what their sex is. Sometimes those don't line up.

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if you accept 'male' and 'female' as sex categories. You seem to be blurring the lines between the two where convenient.
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