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Envitro · 03-12-2012, 03:03 PM

Agreed, that's why I wouldn't imagine that anyone considers losing $20 mil per year "fun".

If you can't put bums in seats then it's not a viable city for hockey. I was shocked that when I was down there over Xmas break I couldn't find a single ticket on game night for the 'yotes vs Bruins game. So you have 1-3 sellouts per year, and the rest is all 6-8k attendance at best. Not a very tenable scenario.

And I don't really buy the whole "we are just waiting for ownership to stabilize before we start going to games again" argument. I'm sure that a certain percentage of fans feel that way, but really isn't the time to do so now? Like our Save our Flames campaign a while back, ownership demanded commitment from the fans and we stepped up.

It's really strange, my folks have owned a place in Phoenix the last 3 years and nobody that they have met have even heard of the Coyotes, and at best it was marginal knowledge of hearing something on the news or sports shows. I know, it's not much of an argument but it's kind of an indicator of interest if there's no buzz in town. Also, I can't ever find any Coyotes gear in a Target, Wal-Mart or any kind of store like that. Always D-backs, Cardinals and tons of U of Az stuff.

This market is kind of bad, and it would be worse if not for all of the snowbirds, ex-pats, and northerners vacationing down there so much.

03-12-2012, 03:03 PM	#247
Envitro First Line Centre Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Saddledome, Calgary Exp:	Agreed, that's why I wouldn't imagine that anyone considers losing $20 mil per year "fun". If you can't put bums in seats then it's not a viable city for hockey. I was shocked that when I was down there over Xmas break I couldn't find a single ticket on game night for the 'yotes vs Bruins game. So you have 1-3 sellouts per year, and the rest is all 6-8k attendance at best. Not a very tenable scenario. And I don't really buy the whole "we are just waiting for ownership to stabilize before we start going to games again" argument. I'm sure that a certain percentage of fans feel that way, but really isn't the time to do so now? Like our Save our Flames campaign a while back, ownership demanded commitment from the fans and we stepped up. It's really strange, my folks have owned a place in Phoenix the last 3 years and nobody that they have met have even heard of the Coyotes, and at best it was marginal knowledge of hearing something on the news or sports shows. I know, it's not much of an argument but it's kind of an indicator of interest if there's no buzz in town. Also, I can't ever find any Coyotes gear in a Target, Wal-Mart or any kind of store like that. Always D-backs, Cardinals and tons of U of Az stuff. This market is kind of bad, and it would be worse if not for all of the snowbirds, ex-pats, and northerners vacationing down there so much. Last edited by Envitro; 03-12-2012 at 03:05 PM.