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Originally Posted by photon
Improving one's self != salvation.
Improving one's self through introspection and education and practice and contemplation is something anyone can do, it doesn't require salvation (which basically tells people they can't improve without God).
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This is exactly true, and it is also where you and I would most fundamentally disagree. I am not convinced that we can improve (enough) without God.
You know me a little bit from our exchanges on CP, but enough to know that I most certainly am not nostalgic or romantic about the past. I champion enlightenment, modernity, and the many wonderful changes wrought on by "progress". However, I also perceive that this world is still a mess. We plug one hole in the dam and another leak appears.
I am not fatalistic about this problem, as I am convinced that it requires proactivity. Where you and I differ is in my belief that even our best efforts will never be good enough, and yet I believe, hope and expect that God will ultimately set the balances aright.