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Originally Posted by calgaryrocks
Makarov, i would argue that it is something similar to what I posted earlier
1. does what this person is saying agree with what Jesus said (note this is assuming the person of Jesus existed and the holy bible includes what he said)
2. do I automatically doubt what they are saying? (this one could be bypassed depending on the situation - miracles etc)
3. Is this person reliable and trustworthy (ie how well do I know them? what is the character history?)
4. Is it likely that what this person is saying is motivated by a personal gain?
5. bring this person to a panel of spiritual elders (because I am not as wise as them, being so young and inexperienced)
if they pass all these, then I would say they actually saying what God told them.
In my opinion these tests do stand the test of time and would be used in any era
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just to respond, because you responded to my question. fair enough that that is what you believe. I am curious as to what kind of evidence would have satisfied your curiousity? I believe in Jesus as it makes sense to me, and I have felt a change in my life since becoming a "Christian" and it gives life more meaning also. I guess it also gives me hope, and peace about things. I am seeking to understand things more, but I know part of faith is just that, if it could be proven, I wouldn't need faith. If I could travel back in time to see if Jesus was there, I would, but I can't, so I will continue to believe in him.
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I cannot appeal to faith or ignorance. I must have solid proof of existence...period. IF you or anyone wants me to buy into a theory, a desire to be part of something larger then I need something more than "trust me". That comes across as something a used car salesman might employ.
In response to your points, why don't you take the time to study the history of religion, and focus on the Christian sect if you desire. It might give you other things to think about and open your eyes to new ideas. I think the change in your life was made by you, for you. It had nothing to do with superstition or the bible. You were ready for change and made that change...that is a great thing, take heart in the fact you were able to make positive changes in your life.