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Old 02-07-2012, 02:40 PM   #705
calgaryrocks
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Originally Posted by Makarov View Post
Take as many sentences as you like. No one required you to do so in one sentence.
Makarov, i would argue that it is something similar to what I posted earlier
1. does what this person is saying agree with what Jesus said (note this is assuming the person of Jesus existed and the holy bible includes what he said)
2. do I automatically doubt what they are saying? (this one could be bypassed depending on the situation - miracles etc)
3. Is this person reliable and trustworthy (ie how well do I know them? what is the character history?)
4. Is it likely that what this person is saying is motivated by a personal gain?
5. bring this person to a panel of spiritual elders (because I am not as wise as them, being so young and inexperienced)
if they pass all these, then I would say they actually saying what God told them.
In my opinion these tests do stand the test of time and would be used in any era
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I have spent a considerable amount of time firmly entrenched in various religions. At this point in my life I firmly believe that Jesus Christ did not exist or was typical to the "man on the bus" as presented earlier. There is no evidence of his existence that satisfies my curiosity and surprisingly none provided by any of the major denominations. "Have faith my son". There is also no difference between any religion, they all espouse to have divine knowledge yet cant come up with any comprehensive proof of "his" existence outside of allegorical or thematic representations. No different than what I mentioned earlier....it is the same as Aesop's Fables, Shakespearean sonnets, Cat in the Hat, etc.
just to respond, because you responded to my question. fair enough that that is what you believe. I am curious as to what kind of evidence would have satisfied your curiousity? I believe in Jesus as it makes sense to me, and I have felt a change in my life since becoming a "Christian" and it gives life more meaning also. I guess it also gives me hope, and peace about things. I am seeking to understand things more, but I know part of faith is just that, if it could be proven, I wouldn't need faith. If I could travel back in time to see if Jesus was there, I would, but I can't, so I will continue to believe in him.
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