[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by comrade

Here's a chapter that didn't make it into Joseph Heath's book Filthy Lucre. Just something I've read that may or may not apply to this case. I don't know much about this tragedy anymore.

http://homes.chass.utoronto.ca/~jheath/Oldch3.pdf

I'm all for the carrot approach if a person is sufficiently sorry, shows remorse, tries to make ammends, and steps up if they did the crime.

In this case, they lied and covered up, there was a chance according to the stories that I've read that they could have prevented this tragedy and they didn't.

I believe that with the carrot there has to be a punishment aspect, you can rehabilitate all you want but at the same time there has to be a realization that your actions contain a price that has to be paid.

I'm also of the mind that there are certain people that have to be removed from society because they just aren't fixable.

I'm all for the first punishment to be all about rehabilitation and education, I would be fine with two jail systems.

I believe that repeat offenders have to be treated in a whole different light.