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Originally Posted by Calgaryborn
O I'm paying attention alright. When your belief system is threatened you start showing your true colours. All of a sudden opinion is worthless unless it is backed up by a thesis by a scientist you respect. Of course that would never happen because anyone who suggested such a theory you would no longer respect. I havn't quoted any creationist apologists so you identify me with some anyway; All so you can belittle my opinion by association. For the record the intelligent design argument has been around longer than Darwin's theory and has been used several times in public debate.
This is a general forum. If you want to talk exclusively with other scientists you've come to the wrong place. Perhaps someone a little less indoctrined than you can see a little bit clearer.
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Ok, fine I relent, I'll bite.
Scientific proof does not equal belief system. One is measurable and provable, the other isn't. Or at least, does not have to be and usually isn't.
You say I have a belief system when I'm merely stating facts. Facts like, the earth is round. And, because they are facts, I can come up with convincing arguments, or accredited sources to back them.
You argue based on circular logic and what fits your world view. That sir, is a 'belief system'.
They are not the same. And I'm sorry if you thought my response to you was rude, but since you continually try to trap within your misguided logic and poor sources I just let loose.
The funny thing was, it wasn't me who showed his true colors, but you. When the discussion/argument got too much for you, you packed up your ball, tried to make me look bad with a few random 'nice character's, I don't need to respond to this,' and left.
And I even gave you an out. I will forgo all sources if you can base your statements on logic theory. Go from one truth to make your next point. Can you give me a real A+B=C where you can start from a real truth and not an opinion?
Let's start at the beginning. The first question I asked you: Can you prove, either scientifically or logically that '
Complex design strongly suggests a designer. The more complexed the design; the more likely a designer is involved.' is more than just opinion.
Can you actually form a new thought? Or are you just regurgitating everything your books, community, and pastor tells you and passing it off as free thought?