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Old 12-30-2011, 12:55 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by 868904 View Post
Yes China is the bad guy, much worse than the US.

I mean look at all the invasions and wars that China has started.



Don't be so naive. Every country has human rights and environmental rights issues.

If you can sit here and complain about Saudi Arabia funding lobby groups in America to combat Keystone, then you should understand that there are similar anti-chinese groups funding lobby groups to taint China's human rights and environmental records.

It's all politics.
I don't think the US is in any way innocent. It's all one game of push and pull.

However, I think a large part of the US's foreign policy is based on the fact that China and Russia do not play by the rules. I don't need to get my information from "anti-Chinese lobby groups". The information is readily available to anyone who looks. While the US is supplying Saudi Arabia with fighter planes, China is flooding the region with AK-47 knockoffs used by militias in Iran and Sudan.

China is more of a recent player on the scene, but Russia (formerly the USSR) has a been a major player for a long time. While Russia and the US have been limiting small arms sales recently, China has quickly filled the gap.

Oil exports from the Saudis to China now exceed those to the USA:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/20/bu...t/20saudi.html

China has shown a willingness to sell Saudi Arabis weapons, including ballistic missiles, the US won't.

Basically, what I'm saying is that both the US and China have taken their own aproaches to middle easter policy. The US is much more likely to invade. Meanwhile China is much more likely to fund unethical governments with weapons designed to be used on civilian populations. Without the US there would be no war in Iraq. Without China the arms embargo against Sudan might have worked.
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