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Obama saved mainly government jobs. Most of the money from his stimulus went to States to preserve union jobs. If a few government jobs were lost anyways that just shows you the depth of the hole States were in. That off the chart spike you see on the graph in government jobs was due to the census. I suspect the losses in government jobs are also reflective in the short term nature of those jobs.
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This argument remains an obvious non-sequitur, and a rather blatant example of willful bias.
Why would you expect his projection to be gospel?
Why are you basing judgment of the impact/wisdom of his policies on a speech?
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It wasn't just a speech. It was a promised return for a large chunk of the nation's future wealth.
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Do you consider Bush being wrong about WMDs to be unforgivable?
Bush had more time to explore the issue, more sources of information to draw from, used more sensationalist rhetoric, and his blunder had far more broad implications than domestic projections.
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I think Bush and his party were held responsible for acting on wrong intelligence and Obama should be held responsible too.
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I'm not giving him a pass, I don't think I've said that I disagree with you.
I'm asking what criteria you (and others) intended to use to evaluate whether or not Obama is "up to the challenge."
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I think the question going forward is who will do a better job in the next 4 years. Obama's past performance and future vision are both relevant. If Romney or another runs against him they will be held to the same standard.