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Old 12-26-2011, 01:12 PM   #2897
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Big Ben elite? i knew you were out to lunch but really? I specifically remember Ben winning them a superbowl with their terrible defense and no run game
Not sure what your definition of elite is but he is the 5th best QB in the league and just a notch below Rodgers, Brees, Brady and P. Manning (when healthy) and much better than the QB's that would come on the list. He may not be as flashy as the top guys but he is a great QB no doubt.

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The patriots won 3 superbowls because of an opportunistic defense and a well balanced offense... not Tom Brady.
Wasn't valo talking about this year though? The defense is garbage this year and not close to the opportunistic defense that they had in the past. And with a handful of crap backs the offense isn't really close to as well balanced as in the past.

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I wont be responding to anymore of your posts so save your breathe, pretty clear whose right in this one seeing as my posts are backed by stats and real life examples
Just in case people had thought Pats fans weren't self important D-bags anymore we have this gem to help us remind us the kind of jerk that cheers for the Pats.
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