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Originally Posted by Papi34
Your whole first point disregarded any talent that the pats have!!
Dude are you kidding me right now?! How did Vernon Davis break the record for touchdowns by a TE with Alex Smith passing him the ball? How did Baltimore win a Superbowl with Trent Dilfer? How have the Steelers won 2 superbowls with Big Ben? How did New England manage to go 11-5 without Brady in 2008.
Are you trying to tell me if the pats had a lesser qb than Brady, gronkowski, Welker and hernandez would be useless?! because i can easily use the reverse argument here. Ochocinco put up seasons of 1000 yards with Carson palmer but has 250 with Brady, does that make Palmer a better qb because without Palmer, Ochocinco is useless. How about Hernandez, the guy was a receiving beast in college. His qb was Tebow... must be better than Brady because he was putting up better numbers in college than the NFL.
Ok final argument and you can drop your absolutely ridiculous beyond stupid argument as you couldnt be more wrong.
Welker 2008 Receiving Yards (Matt Cassel, hadnt thrown a pass since high school) - 1,165
Welker 2007 Receiving Yards (Tom Brady, record breaking offensive year) - 1,175
Yup Brady makes Welker, Welker is completely useless without Brady  |
Vernon Davis broke a record by playing in a system, and with a QB, that utilizes his skill exceptionally well. Baltimore won a super bowl with Dilfer because they had perhaps the best defense of all time (the fact that you actually referenced this as part of your argument makes me question if you even know the shape of a football, let alone anything else about the game). Big Ben is one of the elite QB's in the league, so I'm not really sure why you're referencing him. Ocho put up big seasons with Palmer, who was a Pro Bowler at the time, when he was in his prime. I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but players generally put up bigger numbers in their prime then they do on the downswing of their careers. I'm also a big fan of your reference to a completely different league with completely different demands and styles of play, really demonstrating your acumen once again.
Btw, Cassel played pretty damn good in 2008. That may have something to do with the numbers.
The bottom line is if Brian Hoyer is starting 16 games for the Pats this season they're not a playoff team, and I'm a huge Hoyer fan.