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Old 12-26-2011, 08:40 AM   #2890
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Originally Posted by valo403 View Post
How is it moronic? Well first of all I guarantee you couldn't complete a pass in the NFL, so that statement was moronic. Second, without Brady none of those guys have the numbers they have. That doesn't make hem lesser players, it just means that modern NFL football is a game that is driven by the QB. Third, it's moronic because you somehow have this idiotic idea that making this point means that I'm saying Brady is the only talent on the team. At no point did I say that, please quote the line where I did. The fact is if a receiver or TE doesn't have balls thrown to them they are useless, this is not a complicated concept. It was a moronic post that demonstrated a complete disregard for the importance of an elite QB, especially with a team in Indy that is currently giving a real time demonstration of that fact.
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The Pats D is well below average, and all those guys you named on O are useless without Brady putting the ball in their hands. You could make a similar list using the Colts, and look here they are without an all-world QB.
Your whole first point disregarded any talent that the pats have!!

Dude are you kidding me right now?! How did Vernon Davis break the record for touchdowns by a TE with Alex Smith passing him the ball? How did Baltimore win a Superbowl with Trent Dilfer? How have the Steelers won 2 superbowls with Big Ben? How did New England manage to go 11-5 without Brady in 2008.

Are you trying to tell me if the pats had a lesser qb than Brady, gronkowski, Welker and hernandez would be useless?! because i can easily use the reverse argument here. Ochocinco put up seasons of 1000 yards with Carson palmer but has 250 with Brady, does that make Palmer a better qb because without Palmer, Ochocinco is useless. How about Hernandez, the guy was a receiving beast in college. His qb was Tebow... must be better than Brady because he was putting up better numbers in college than the NFL.

Ok final argument and you can drop your absolutely ridiculous beyond stupid argument as you couldnt be more wrong.

Welker 2008 Receiving Yards (Matt Cassel, hadnt thrown a pass since high school) - 1,165
Welker 2007 Receiving Yards (Tom Brady, record breaking offensive year) - 1,175

Yup Brady makes Welker, Welker is completely useless without Brady
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