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Old 12-13-2011, 01:42 PM   #74
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i should have been more specific. the conventional food system is being pushed to the brink of failure, imo. cheap oil is long gone, and the conventional system relies to heavily on petroleum, how can a system, that fewer people will be able to afford, not have some sort of failure at some point.

well, if you feel food is safer and held to much higher standards today, then i would suggest you do some of your own research and look into the food system we have today. i'll even help you out a bit, read this book.
I have, otherwise I wouldn't be engaging you in this discussion. I suggest that you take your own advice instead of merely resting on the position of one book you're read on the subject that just so happens to correspond to your viewpoint. I actually have read Michael Pollan's book and recognize it as the unscientific tripe it is.

Pollan uses science selectively when attempting to make his point, which immediately invalidates his arguments. It's the same as a person conducting an experiment but only keeping the stats demonstrating positive results and discarding the rest. You are not following the scientific method when you cherry pick to prove a point.

You need to understand whose 'research and logic' you are trusting. Michael Pollan is a professor of journalism and an activist. He has no professional background in agriculture or food sciences and is providing you with his opinion. And unfortunately, his opinion is based on flawed reasoning.

But don't take my word for it, I'm not a professional in the field either - just a critical thinker. Here's three separate perspectives from people who are in positions to make more concrete statements on the validity of Michael Pollan's viewpoints than you or I:

Gregory R. Ziegler, Ph.D, Professor of Food Sciences at Penn State: http://foodsci.wisc.edu/assets/FT-0508-PERSPECTIVE1.pdf
Professor John A. Lucey, Dept. of Food Sciences, U. Wisconsin-Madison: http://foodsci.wisc.edu/assets/Lucey%20Blog.pdf
Chris Hallquist, Biology Major, U. Wisconsin-Madison: http://www.uncrediblehallq.net/2009/...tion-a-review/
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Typical dumb take.
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