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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Looking at the history of human civilization, democracies and free societies (using the word "free" loosely), do not tend to last for a very long time. Most humans that have ever lived, and probably at least half that currently live, do live in democratic situations where liberty is a protected quality. For the past 5000 years or so, different societies have tried to have democratic societies and protection of liberties, but most fall after a few hundred years at the longest. While I wouldn't want to live in a dictatorship personally, it has never been proven that our natural social setting as humans is in a democratic society.
I guess is what I am getting at is that I think democracy will eventually fall in the U.S. (and the rest of the Western world)... "when" is the only question.
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Commonly owned and relatively cheap information age technologies and the inability of authorities to "control the message" or "control the spin" as would have been the case in humanity's past is probably a game changer, rendering your analysis a bit moot.
"Divide and conquer" is almost impossible these days, even in places where it had worked for decades and centuries. Activism is remarkably easy.
Regarding the Bill, it seems to be aimed at recognizing the practical necessity of Guantanamo, something even Obama seems to have conceded, and the fact Al Quaeda is employing a lot of common sense in recruiting radicalized American citizens to penetrate the more organized USA defences.
Its a genuine slippery slope though. No one would argue that.
An American Police state? There were people on this Board saying that BEFORE 9/11. The paranoid aren't helping themselves with over-reactions.
Cowperson