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Originally Posted by idnami
I've read your blog. No you haven't said the kind of nasty things your husband says, you've only used the words of some of us in a selective way and mocked them as a lead up to recommending his blog. I read his squatter-be-gone post too. It was very funny in a sick way. Recommending the post isn't the same as writing it but it certainly does amount to endorsing and encouraging antagonistic sentiments. Therefore no person who is part of this movement has much reason to trust or welcome you.For the record, I am the person on fb who first made the distinction between you and your husband and for what it's worth, I meant it and I did benefit from your brief time there in that I learned something I didn't know. I was encouraged by your comment to the effect of "I'm more supportive than you think." If your intentions were benign then I'm sorry you got the boot. Judging by your use of screenshots of that page, I'm not so sure they were.
We don't do everything by consensus. If we did, not much would get done.
When non-supporters visit the blog I engage them. I try to learn from them. I agree and disagree with the privacy settings on the FB page, because on the one hand I have found dialogue with non-supporters very useful and enlightening on both sides. On the other hand not everyone has the patience I have to deal constantly with disrespect. Again. There is a difference between one person's right to speak and another's willingness to host their words. This is why there are two FB pages. The other is open to anyone, as you know because you post there. Then we have the blog, which is also open to anyone. On the blog I have been accused of censorship because I delete the occasional extremely hateful comment. But no one is ever banned from reading or commenting there. Come on down if you want to talk occupy.
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Thank you for admitting that; I've never called them squatters, I've never accused anyone of being an unemployed bum and I've never called them hippies.
Cory and I promote each others blogs all the time. I promote other blogs and articles via Twitter, Facebook and sometimes here. I don't necessarily agree with all of them.
And yes, you did acknowledge that Cory and I are two different people. Frankly though your movement could learn a thing or two from both of us.
In Cory's case, he developed an opinion early on and then gathered the evidence to support his position.
Lesson:
- know your message.
- stay on message.
- provide evidence.
In my case, I sat back for some time and observed. You will note I didn't blog for a month, from Nov 1 to Dec 2. My approach was to expose what the people of occupy were really thinking. I simply started sharing the groups thoughts.
Lesson:
- realize everything you say (type) is permanent.
- if you claim to be open and accountable, demonstrate it.
- don't feed the trolls. (me)
I think your group also needs to realize how hard it is to start a "movement".
Cory and I have thousands of followers between our blogs and Twitter because we have been at it for years. That doesn't happen in a few short weeks and it certainly won't happen if you are inconsistent in your message or don't even know what it is in the first place.
As for censoring comments on your own blog, I fully agree with that. It's yours, its one of your tools to control your message. I too delete comments that contain vulgarities or are outright defamation. I allow contrary views, IMO that is the only way to keep a dialogue going and interest up.
People debate ideas, you will never win over the person you are debating with; the ones you are trying to win over are your viewers. Viewers weigh the value of the comments and make their decisions based on who makes a stronger case. One of the reasons I don't much care for anonymous commenters.