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Old 12-03-2011, 03:28 PM   #117
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An atheist by definition has closed his mind to the possibility of the existance of God. You can think what you want but, that is what makes an atheist an atheist.
Good of you to tell all atheists what they think, but you are wrong.

Atheism is the lack of belief, it doesn't say anything about future possibilities. Redefining the word might help you make your point but there's no reason to do it.

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I never said it was relevant to the veracity of the claim. Don't put words in my mouth.
You said "Of course the existance of Santa is a very narrow possibility to close your mind to. What is the cost?"

You're the one that asked "What is the cost?", the cost isn't relevant.

Of course if you're just throwing random sentences in between other sentences that aren't supposed to be connected to each other, then there's no way to determine the meaning.

As written is fallacious.

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The value of the answer determines its relevance. There is a reason why mankind continues to seek an alternate energy source equal to fossel fuels or a cure for MS, breast cancer, alzheimer, ect. Men have spent whole careers seeking answers to these questions and failed to find those answers. Yet another man and then another one picks up where they left off in the hope of succeeding where the other failed. There may be no cure for alzheimer or an energy source capable of giving us what fossel fuels provide us now. It is the value of the answer that makes the pursuit worth while.
That's nice, but that doesn't have any bearing on what I said.

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Photon you and your atheist brethern
When have I ever said that I'm an atheist?

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have determined there is no God and moreover there is nothing after this life.
Determined is a statement about knowledge, theism/atheism is a statement about belief. They're not the same things.

Lots of atheists would not say they have determined there is no god, they would just say they don't believe in any.

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Not only do you chose not to seek but, contend that those who do are being foolish.
You talk about putting words in other people's mouth but then make a whole post full of it....

Who said I didn't chose to seek, every time I read or post in a thread or talk to friends or read a book about religion and spirituality and such I seek.

I spent most of my adult life in church seeking.

And where have I said those that seek are being foolish?

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You atheists have closed your minds to the two biggest questions life has to offer.
I haven't closed my mind to any possibility. Most atheists haven't either, pretty much any atheist I know is open to be convinced otherwise.

Your convenient straw atheist that you've set up isn't representative of all or even (I'd say) many atheists.

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Yet many atheist do this very thing.
Sure, who ever said an atheist would be immune to flawed reasoning? The human brain is riddled with cognitive flaws, one's position on god or politics or Santa hardly changes that.
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