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Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Well for starters, yes the politicians de-regulated the banking sector. Doing that however, does not mean that we automatically bail them out when they fail? Congress people were intimidated into signing the bail-out bill, including threats of "total collapse" and "martial law" behind closed doors. There are c-span youtube videos with several people expressing their concern about this.

Again, this doesn't take away from my point. Congress did everything they did to make sure the bankers got away with screwing the public over, but the public has been sending these fools back to Washington for years. And this stuff has been going on for years.

The deregulation or lack of proper regulation started in the 70s. It has been widely documented since then, and the public, despite numerous 'crashes' along the way has never listened or said anything EVER about changing it. Nor have they ever attempted to change anything considering guys like Barney Frank have been re-elected numerous times.

Barney Frank? Yeah........the guy had his boyfriend run a gay prositution ring out of a house he owned.

It is way worse than that. His 'friends' were actively receiving beneficial treatments from Frank through his position as chairman of the House Financial Committee. Hell of it is, we KNEW it was happening, and his constituents still re-elected him.

In hindsight of the Iraq war, everyone now knows that the public was flat out lied to about the weapons of mass destruction programs. The fear-mongering lies are what got people behind it. The media helped sell that one.

True. I agreed with the Iraq War at the start as well based on the evidence that was given. But, Congress never made a real attempt to read the NIS report. Most of them barely skimmed it. So that same Congress, sent to Washington BY the people of the United States again didn't do their job leading to a multi-trillion dollar war that didn't benefit the US at all.

The political system itself is corrupt. It's run by banking oligarchs. The people have very little control of the government outside of voting.

I agree with the first part, although I would say that the banks aren't the only ones running the government, but I disagree with the second part. The people have been voting in the same people that are being controlled by 'corporate' America, so you can't possible say they have very little control. For all the people like Ron Paul, there are dozens of others like Frank who are corrupt to the bone. If those 'dozens' are voted out, people like Paul suddenly have a much bigger voice.