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Old 11-30-2011, 09:22 AM   #272
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Can you also explain to me why this is a cash cow instead of a luxury tax as I put it. It is not a right for you to drink when you go out, it is a luxury you can. If you can't control yourself and you get caught, you basically got taxed for a luxury. and do you agree about how the other cash cows people complain about are easily avoidable?

I know it is impossible to change a persons mind on an internet battle. I just don't like the argument of 'it's not me, there are worse people'
I view it as a cash cow, they are making an insane amount of money off of this. This is not motivated by saving peoples lives, this is motivated by cash. If this project just broke even, IE: it didn't cost the government a thing to do this, I'd bet they wouldn't even bother. Here is my view on it.

For one, they are doing this to people that are not breaking the law. Do you get a $75 ticket for doing 95km/h in a 100km/h? If they want the new law to be .05, then make that the law.

Companies get the contracts to install the iginition devices. The costs are set. There is no competition. If it wasn't a cash cow, I should be able to just go get an igintion devices installed if its required due to my past driving habits.

Towing companies bid on the contracts for the RCMP. One tow yard that I know for sure charges extra when its an RCMP tow. $70 a night on a regular impound, $100 a night when its an RCMP tow. $50 hook up fee, vs $75. Fine, suspend my license and give me a fine, but the impounding of the vehicle is a bit much. If I can get arrangements for my vehicle in a timely manner I should be able to. There is no reason I should lose my vehicle for 3 days without an appeal process ESPECIALLY considering there is no law being broken. I'm not sure if the writing on their tickets have changed, but I know it used to be that if you could arrange for a tow and the cop wasn't a dick, you could get your own vehicle towed. If it wasn't about generating cash then i'd be able to choose to get my car towed. I know that they say the 3 days impoundment is to ensure that a person wont drive, thats just bull####. Some homes have multiple vehicles, so a person can still drive. You've notified them that their license is suspended. Its a huge penalty to drive with a suspended license. Don't handle us with kid gloves. And don't tell me to be mad at the tow yards for price gouging. If they didn't have to bid on these contracts to get the coveted RCMP contract (that bid has got to be worth some serious coin) there would be no price gouging. They've created a system that will screw us over.

And my favourite. The $250 re-instatement fee. Prior, when you got a 24 hour suspension you could just walk into the RCMP office 24 hours later and just pick up your license. This system was in place for years. The officers literally dropped off your physical license at the office after your shift. That $250 is just going straight to the DMV for literally doing nothing.

Then in BC there is the RDP. Responsible Driver Program. The class I was in had 15 people. We met once a week for 8 weeks for 1 hour. Cost us $1000 each. There is some overhead, however there is no way the course costs $15000 to run.

If these changes were done as non profit, these changes would not be in place. If they were not making money hand over fist, they would have not changed a thing.

If it wasn't a cash cow. I'd be able to arrange towing for my own vehicle. If it wasn't a cash cow there would be competition for who installs these ignition devices. The $250 re-instatement fee is a joke. If it wasn't a cash cow the RDP, would be an actual competent program. The instructor I saw, has seen multiple people go thru more then once, and some as high as 4 times. Its not working.... oh wait it is, its making a #### ton of money.
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