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Old 11-22-2011, 04:08 PM   #148
JayP
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Originally Posted by zukes View Post
I have no problem with Verlander winning the MVP. He was the most valuable player to his team.

Consider, Detroit finished 95-67, good for .586 winning %.

In games that Verlander pitched, Detroit was 25-9, .735 winning %

In games that Verlander did not pitch, 70-58, .549 winning %

In games where Verlander did not get a decision he left with a lead once, they lost, left tied once and they lost, left losing 3 times, all only by one run and they went 1-2.

Line: 9IP, 6H, 2R 2ER, 1BB, 4K
Line: 7.2IP, 7H, 1R, 1ER, 2BB, 8K

Those are two of his five losses above.

He threw a near perfect game against the Jays, his only blemish a 12 pitch walk.

His last loss was July 15th.

That to me, says MVP.
Using W-L record to judge an individual player is ridiculous. Either way, that terrible .549 winning% the non-Verlander starters put up still would've won the 89 games.

Kershaw, Lee, and Halladay all had better seasons than Verlander in terms of actually getting players out, but Verlander is more important to his team because his team put up more runs in the games he pitched. That's essentially what you say when you bring up his W-L record.

If Verlander wins the MVP this year then why doesn't a pitcher win it every year?
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