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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
This is the whole crux of the debate. I think they know what they're trying to argue, but they are having extreme difficulty articulating it or forming it into a coherent, effective message.
They may not have had a discussion because they don't know how to even begin with it. But I would say that for the most part, these people are arguing about economic difficulties and pointing fingers at those who own the wealth and make the corporate/political decisions. I think that much is pretty obvious if you look at what's being "protested" in New York, Calgary, wherever.
Cap, I can tell you're educated an passionate about the issue, and perhaps that's why you have a good grasp of the whole thing. Many people, protesters and non-protesters, don't have as good of an understanding, for whatever reason that might be.
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See now that's something I can understand & accept. Back to the original "we're a symptom of the problem" argument the Occupy Calgary protesters were originally spouting. They may not be able to articulate & diagnose the problems, but they do have a right to be part of the discussion at some point.
The really sticky point for me is that those who are inarticulate & have a poor understanding of the problems should not be allowed to drive the conversation.
If my appendix is swollen and I go to the hospital it's acceptable for me to say "doc, I got pains in my abdomen", but that doesn't mean I get to order the xrays or insist on directing the surgery. Or worse yet insisting it's not my appendix as the doctor says, but I'm sure it's my heart, gonna need a robot heart for sure. Also I'm not leaving this ER until I get my robot heart!