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Originally Posted by valo403
You clearly don't understand my argument and are attempting to characterize it to fit your preconceived notions of what I "get" or believe. There's really no need for me to carry on discussing it with you if that's the way this is going to operate.
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I think you're the one who doesn't understand your own argument. You are anthropomorphizing "football program" as if it is some kind of independent entity. See your quote below:
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Originally Posted by valo403
I think there is a difference between actions perpetrated by a football program and actions perpetrated by individuals within a football program. If you don't see it that way, fine.
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That's so sloppy it's worthy of every bit of derision I can heap upon it. The "football program" doesn't exist apart from the people running it, and their collective understanding of its purposes, goals, and rules. It has no independent volition, it's not a philosophical position, and it doesn't "perpetrate any actions". That you don't see how this undercuts your entire argument, shows that you aren't really arguing so much as reiterating your assumptions in different forms.
Again, the idea that football concerns should trump all other concerns is where the root of this cover-up came from, and the best way to demonstrate that this isn't so is to end, or at least suspend, football at Penn State. Yes, this will greatly upset the alumni, and the student body, and the staff, and the local economy, but far more importantly, it will demonstrate that football, in the grand scheme of life, is a freakin' game, not a sacred institution whose practitioners are above morality and question.