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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
But still, humans are not by evolutionary terms, a top predator. Just we evolved the intellect to use tools and organize ourselves and discovered ways to overcome evolutionary shortcomings (low strength, fragile bodies, no bony defenses, no natural weapons) and it turns out we are really good at (and in fact may enjoy) killing things.
I don't really have a problem with your argument that Raptors are pretty lethal creatures, but you keep equating humans with predators.
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I understand that, my point is that all the things you suggest the high intelligence, tools and such were not characteristics in the early Homo genus and that IF the extinction had not occured it would have been extremely (thats using the term lightly as the actual chances are astronomical against us) unlikely that we would survive let alone be as evovled as we are today due to us being pushed down the food web.
Look at it this way if Cows were left alone as a species with small interventions with other creatures chances are high (if evolution is true) that due to that seclusion and them being forced to fend for themselves and out of their element that they would evolve at a higher rate than their surroundings and become the masters of their domain as well as changing immensly in a physical and neurological form. I'm not saying that the cows will be standing up straight and able to speak english fluently as well as aquiring a taste for tea, but a MUCH higher evolved form than they are currently.