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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
All I'm saying is you're making it sounds like everyone wants the end to oil production. That's what your argument is coming across as. I think many other would think the same as I.
You are of the opinion, and it has become pretty clear by your numerous posts, that you consider most, if not all of the 'occupiers' to be nutbars, whack jobs, losers, communists, and anything else you can lump together to make a motley crue of misfits and weirdos. Environmentalists against oil? You'll lump them in there too, and focus on the fringe arguments that don't accurately define the entire group protesting and those who support them.
In your previous posts and by quoting my earlier post, you all but confirmed that everyone is falling for the "end oil production" argument and I think that's just not true. You are grouping everyone into this protest as lemmings, and thus, being blind-sided by false and extremist arguments. That is just not true. The media sure loves it, but 58% of people aren't buying it.
And as for the 99% figure? For one, that number is just not true as the polls show - it's 58% support, 33% don't, and the rest don't have an opinion on it at all. You have yet to refute the majority support for the protest, which many of us who read your posts are patiently waiting for. If 58% of Canadian society supports the protests, do we all want an end to big oil? No.
And you, who are clearly in the 33%, need to lay off the "holier-than-thou" attitude because you can't find clarity of message in these protests. Your obvious hostility towards those who have every right to protest the broken pieces of our global society is as clear as water. These protests are a conservatives' wet dream - and your loving every minute of it because even at the slightest sign of dissention or cracks among the Occupiers ranks, you will jump in the usual predatory fashion that you do and make lame comments about how this whole thing is just wrong and misguided.
But I guess it's not a party if it's not a Tea Party, right?
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Seriously dude? I've said repeatedly that good points, points I agree with, are being lost because the fringe element has co-opted the movement. I have at no time said that I think the movement is about these fringe parties, or that everyone who supports it shares their thoughts. They wouldn't really be fringe if that was the case would they?
It's pretty hilarious that you think I'm a conservative actually. My anger towards this movement, actually not the movement but what it has become, is that it's doing damage to the ability for actual progress to be made on important issues. Economic reform needs to happen. Tax reform needs to happen. Environmental reform needs to happen. The way this movement has turned has made it incredibly easy for the actual needed reforms to be lost. The lack of structure and formed ideas has allowed the idiot fringe to take the lead. It's become an extremist movement, and that type of movement simply drives wedges into things and prevents any type of progress.