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Old 10-19-2011, 01:56 PM   #318
Daradon
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Originally Posted by Cowperson View Post
"The Silent Majority" . . . . first coined by Richard Nixon.

Nixon along with many others saw this group of Middle Americans as being overshadowed in the media by the more vocal minority.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_majority

You and Occupy Wall St., of course, are "the more vocal minority."

Everyone tries to claim The Silent Majority is on their side. You're nothing new in that regard.

In this case, the coming weeks will see the truth or fiction of that. As I said, its nice to spread to a bunch of different locations and get the local vocal minority out . . . . . but you'll need to inspire thousands and tens of thousands - in each of those locations - to visibly join you before it would look convincing.

Obama can read the Hill poll I posted above just as easily as anyone else - reflecting the views of The Silent Majority - and his team will also be watching the visible numbers.

Occupy Wall St really isn't that impressive . . . . . but it could be. I'm doubting the momentum though because the general public has already been exposed to the comments from the wingnut fringe, the veritable first impression. Its not a good one. It looks like its populated by the illiterate minority.

I will open a bag of popcorn and sit back and wait to see what happens. Just like everyone else. It will only take a few weeks to see which way the momentum is going.



Time is perfectly capable of doing a scientific poll. You used it for a context it probably wasn't meant for. I narrowed it down for you with The Hill poll.



I noted above and elsewhere fines and penalties are being handed out left and right where wrong doing is found.

However, your group wants revenge on individuals. Perp walks have happened before on Wall St, including coming out of the bubbles bursting in 1987, 2000 and now 2008 so its not like it hasn't happend before. However, if you want more perp walks than normal in bubble-bursting environments, you have to talk to your politicians about changing laws . . . . . just like most Americans understand via The Hill polling.

Cowperson
Sigh, first of all I never called it that, the Time article did. It was right on the front page. So I'm not sure how I could have misused it or the poll. I just always thought of Time as more of a middle of the road political/issues/entertainment magazine, not with the credibility of say The Economist, so I was willing to be open to possibilities of a type of sensationalism if so called out on it.

Secondly I'm fully aware that isn't the first time that phrase has been used, no need to be patronizing. I'm also fully aware that pretty much every group believes themselves to be in that group. I don't know why you think your educating me on that or talking to me like I'm some 16 year who is mad at their parents. This isn't my first rodeo, I've been around the block, and I'm obviously much older than you think I am, yadda yadda yadda.

Third, a few of the other points you made here I have also made. One the radicals could be harming the movement, and two we will see a lot more of the story in the coming weeks. I said the first to you just previous, and the second in a response to Calgaryborn when I said the story hasn't been written yet and there will be a lot to see unfold (or whether or not it does unfold in comparison to TTPM)

Lastly, I'm not looking for revenge on anyone, and I'm not sure the centralized message or desires are either. I think this is another one of the radical movements of the party creating noise over the rest. And I don't know how you get rid of those people. They exist in every movement. Are they creating more harm than good, or is their presence creating a means to an end? I dunno, we will see.
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