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Old 10-13-2011, 05:18 PM   #295
pylon
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Originally Posted by woob View Post
I believe one of the items suggested by this movement is to get government to change the taxation system/rules/regulations/etc. that enable a guy like this to exploit the tax system. I also believe one of the items suggested by this movement is to remove corporate dollars from politics that may have enabled a guy like this to make a back room deal, if that is what you are possibly referring to.

So, in that case, as a member of society who pays taxes, works, and all that fun member of society stuff, I absolutely have a right to one penny of his if he is gaming the tax system and making back room deals to avoid paying the taxes and whatever else that he and his business should be paying. I don't care one iota if he polished his own poop in the process of getting to where he is today.

Edit to add: By saying I have a right to a penny from him, I mean that by being a member of a country/society that collects taxes/fees/whatever and that if he's gaming the system to avoid paying all those taxes/fees/whatever, then my country/society has a right to a penny from him, and as a result so do I.
If you exploit the tax system within the rules of the tax system for maximum benefit, what the heck is the problem? I exploit my personal tax return every year, to maximize my refund, and dump the entire refund towards my mortgage every year. I know some people are content to go to HR block and get the absolute minimum refund they are eligible for so they can have the cash that day to go on a bender, but I want every penny back I qualify for. How is a business exploiting taxation rules any different?

How is a business/owner getting a tax break for bringing X #'s of jobs to a community, or city or whatever to the table bad for you or anyone? Especially if they are bringing a couple hundred jobs to the table, instead of going overseas? Only a stupid business person wouldn't explore those avenues/options. I would much prefer a super rich guy getting a little super richer, and keeping the jobs local, than the alternative of it evaporating forever to some foreign country.

There is a ton of back scratching in big business, and unless you make every single business interaction, public record, and have every single conversation recorded, and witnessed by a government official, it will never, ever, ever in the history of ever go away. Period.
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