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Old 10-11-2011, 11:49 AM   #70
Daradon
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14 View Post
I like how you responded to Jiri's complaint about how these protests are unspecified with more unspecified arguments. "Just exercising democracy"? Some vapid argument that not protesting means we risk losing freedom?

Don't get me wrong, I respect your right to protest, and I would never say "you're an idiot for joining in", but the purpose of this is so vague that I simply can't bring myself to care. To me, your expression of democracy is akin to writing in "none of the above" on an election ballot. Yeah, you expressed yourself, but in the end you have failed to accomplish anything.

And the truly sad part is that if you go down to City Hall on any given weekend, there is usually a group protesting something. Pro-military, anti-war, pro-Libyian rebels, anti-rodeo, etc. These people have specific messages they want to get out to the public, and only the people who happen to be traveling down 1st S.E. ever see it. Yet this mess of a protest will probably be the lead story on the evening news. A fairly sad reflection on what we place our values in, if you ask me.
Missed your reply, and I can't add too much more than what I've already said. I did like your response though and I totally get it, I just have to disagree on the mood of the protest I guess. You feel the purpose or message is vague, I feel it is large and hard to define, but still very important. As I've said a few times, I was one of the first to comment on the first Occupy thread that I felt the movement needed a more concise message. I totally get where you are coming from.

But as a few have said better than I, I guess it's just about empowerment, fairness, and as I said, democracy. It's not my movement, I can't define someone else's message. And I think that's the point. It's truly leaderless. Void of someone or something taking it over. Impervious of having a political party use it like the Tea Party movement. But don't make the mistake of thinking that just because it doesn't have a leader, or a candidate, or a list of demands, or the desire to overthrow the government, that it isn't worthwhile. It's the people who don't get noticed talking together loud enough to be noticed.
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