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Originally Posted by Cowperson
It just sounds very stupid.
Take out "corporate greed," "bad banking" and "stupid people making selfish decisions at the top" and leave "governance systems" and you've finally got some proper focus.
And if that's where you are - protesting "governance systems" - then why are you protesting on Wall St?
You should be at the state legislature or in Washington or on the campaign trail attacking politicians because that is where "governance systems" will be influenced.
I was just listening to Obama's speech on TV and he basically said, almost word-for-word, the same thing I said earlier in this thread . . . . . . that we are likely finding, generally, that no laws were broken in 2008, hence a lack of criminal charges, that Wall St. types are among the best and brightest among us and very clever and opportunitistic if an opening is presented to them through a weakened regulatory environment, that they are very profit-oriented even in the face of moral ambiguity, which isn't a crime in the current regulatory environment, and that the regulatory and supervisory functions had been weakened too far by politicians through multiple administrations.
Seriously, he said exactly that.
And, my point earlier in the thread, if you loosen the cages at the zoo enough so that the Lions can get out, don't be surprised if they do what comes instinctively and naturally, including taking down innocent men, women and children in the streets.
This is really about the regulatory environment.
Put the lions back in regulatory cages where they can do what they do best and which is extremely helpful to global commerce . . . . but keep the cage just tight enough that they can't hurt you as well.
That's the job of your duly elected politicians.
In Egypt, in Iran, in Syria, in Libya . . . . its about regime-change. The demand is pretty clear and simple.
I guess you gotta protest somewhere and probably about something but yes, a lack of a focussed message with a clear agenda is probably hurting the Occupy Wall St. movement. They're frustrated but they sound like illiterate dummies frankly.
Cowperson
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That's fantastic Cow. Now can you convince the growing number of people who are participating in these protests and the dearth of people supporting them across the United States and into Canada? I'm not sure how it's hurting the message. Seems like people who have been affected by bad governance and for-profit banks that didn't stop these people when they were bombarded with "it's not bad for you!" advertising for subprime mortgages are the ones losing their jobs and livelihoods.
You can frame the picture the way you want, and say no crimes were committed - but somebody clearly won at the expense of others - and it's affecting people's lives. And that's more than enough to send the common man to the streets to protest, even if educated types who know more about the situation see a bigger picture.