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Old 09-15-2011, 11:34 AM   #128
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Originally Posted by kirant View Post
Under the right circumstances?
Exactly and the things you mention (among others) show how people, when dehumanized, will act in inhumane ways.

To me it's a basic question.. if I had been in the exact same situation as whatever person had done whatever bad thing, would I have acted in the same way? If I had been in the same situation, having the same history (upbringing, situations of abuse, etc), would I have acted in the same way? If I had been in the same situation having the same history and having the same predispositions (DNA) would I have acted in the same way?

If I would have acted in the same way, then the "personal responsibility" doesn't actually exist, and it's a matter of a person reacting the way any person would in a given circumstance, and the focus should be on remediation not punishment.

If I would not have acted in the same way, then question is why. If I have the strength to overcome a situation, or the wisdom to see the consequences of my path, or the will power not to give into base motivations, or whatever, why do I have those abilities and others do not? Unless someone actually thinks that a person one day wakes up and says to themselves "you know what, I really need to twist my worldview and sense of morality to the point that I am a sociopath, now how do I go about that".

If a person's mind is broken, they need help, not a mob with pitchforks motivated by a misguided sense of "justice".
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