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Rathji · 09-13-2011, 03:32 PM

Ok, so I found the bills I am assuming they are referring to:

C52 ( text here ), which requires telecommunications companies to have the ability to intercept messages and to require them turn over specified intercepted information to authorized law enforcement agencies.

Now that I have read the bill, I will comment on their 3 main points on the website.

Warrantless: A range of "authorities" will have the ability to invade the private lives of law-abiding Canadians and our families using wired Internet and mobile devices, without a warrant or any justification.
How does the text of the bill even coming close to implying that it can be done without a warrant? Also, how is it any different than allowing a wiretap if a warrant is obtained?

Invasive and Dangerous: The laws leave our personal and financial information less secure and more susceptible to cybercrime.
Again, how is it any different than allowing a wiretap if a warrant is obtained?

Costly: Internet services providers may be forced to install millions of dollars worth of spying technology and the cost will be passed down to YOU.
This is a valid point, we might have to pay a tiny fraction of our bill each month in an increase to allow our ISP's to meet these requirement. The same as we would need to pay a little bit extra on our city taxes if they opened 10 new bus routes next year in Calgary. It might suck but is it worth getting bent out of shape for? Maybe. Depends on the cost - I dont know, and I doubt the people who made this petition do either.

09-13-2011, 03:32 PM	#4
Rathji Franchise Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Supporting Urban Sprawl Exp:	Ok, so I found the bills I am assuming they are referring to: C52 ( text here ), which requires telecommunications companies to have the ability to intercept messages and to require them turn over specified intercepted information to authorized law enforcement agencies. Now that I have read the bill, I will comment on their 3 main points on the website. Warrantless: A range of "authorities" will have the ability to invade the private lives of law-abiding Canadians and our families using wired Internet and mobile devices, without a warrant or any justification. How does the text of the bill even coming close to implying that it can be done without a warrant? Also, how is it any different than allowing a wiretap if a warrant is obtained? Invasive and Dangerous: The laws leave our personal and financial information less secure and more susceptible to cybercrime. Again, how is it any different than allowing a wiretap if a warrant is obtained? Costly: Internet services providers may be forced to install millions of dollars worth of spying technology and the cost will be passed down to YOU. This is a valid point, we might have to pay a tiny fraction of our bill each month in an increase to allow our ISP's to meet these requirement. The same as we would need to pay a little bit extra on our city taxes if they opened 10 new bus routes next year in Calgary. It might suck but is it worth getting bent out of shape for? Maybe. Depends on the cost - I dont know, and I doubt the people who made this petition do either. __________________ "Wake up, Luigi! The only time plumbers sleep on the job is when we're working by the hour." Last edited by Rathji; 09-13-2011 at 03:35 PM.