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Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Fallacy, fallacy, fallacy.....

The flashes were not witnessed when the planes made impact. They were reported right before collapse.

Have you ever blown onto a fire and seen it flare up big? Now think, burning materials have fallen down to the bottom, and are still burning. Now the top of the tower starts collapsing, sending a rush of wind down the shafts, and the fires suddenly get larger. There's your "flash" or what easily could be called an explosion by a observer, especially one would obviously would have been concerned for their life at the moment of observation. i.e. panicking. Also, most people think of "movie explosions" when talking about explosions. What I'm describing would cause what would look like a "movie explosion". If there was an actual explosion to aid the tower collapse, it would not look anything like a "flash." Any detonation that could have been planted without long term planning and installation (obviously very noticable) that could have aided in the building's collapse would have had a shock wave that would likely have killed everyone outside on the street running away.

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Wow.......you don't get it.

Do you have any understanding of physics and or structural engineering at all? The weight and inertia of at least 15 floors falling would overload the design load AND the safety factors by what? At least a factor of 100, IMO. The floors would instantly be sheared off of the columns, with virtually no resistance. There's no building contents even remotely strong enough to have any significant effect on that.

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

You're reaching big time. How do you know what the desginers considered?

It's clear that no one had ever considered planes being used as weapons, as they were. Thus, the results of what happened when a plane intentionally hit the buildings were never considered. It's not that hard to understand is it? All the talk around the accident was that the engineers had considered the possibility of a 707 accidentally hitting a tower in some fog on final approach. The 707 is a much smaller plane, and a plane on final approach would not have had a huge quantity of fuel on board, and would have been going 1/3 of the speed.

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

You shuold really check out what real architects, fire experts and engineers have to say about the collapse.

I've checked out many. Virtually all agree with what I'm saying.