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Originally Posted by Cheese
well this is your quote Cecil....
Comments like "well when you're dealing with that kind of addict" make no sense. This is the same stuff I addressed earlier. Yes, nicotine is addicting. No it is not "just like crack" and one of "those" types of addictions. Study or no study that is bull####. Smoking has never ruined someone's life the way coke/heroin have.Yes they may die, but smokers know that. They may even rationalize it with crap like "well, we all die" but that isn't the point.
I hate to tell you but Ill bet that there are millions of people out there who would LOVE to have their mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, partners back because they have died from a smoking related illness. Ill even bet that its ruined more lives than coke or heroin have. Heroin and other hard drug addicts are FULLY aware they are killing themselves as well, that comment is just silly.
The fact you dont buy into "studies" is really your issue.
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I guess you missed the part right after where I mentioned dying.
The studies I'm referring to are with regards to the addictive power. I've smoked. It is not as addicting as heroin or coke. It just isn't. Try one line of blow and you'll almost instantly want another. Have one cigarette and you probably won't even give it a second thought. At no point did I argue that smoking doesn't cause cancer and kill you. But it doesn't typically lead to selling your house, becoming a prostitute, selling your child into slavery, violent crime, long jail terms, losing your job. Have you seen those meth addict memes? Hard drugs and nicotine are simply not comparable.
How does my evidence, albeit anecdotal, that the studies about the addictive power are BS have ANYTHING to do with inconsiderate smokers or the amount of crime, violence, prostitution etc that are caused by illegal drugs?
Meth, coke and heroin are about 1000x worse than smoking. For about the fourth time, it is misleading and outright dishonest to compare them. A meth/heroin addict has about as much in common with a caffeine addict (my point that you missed the first time).
Smokers standing in doorways and a junkie who's addicted to heroin are not even comparable. It is laughable.
I joined this discussion because a) second hand smoke in extrememly small quantities doesn't cause cancer, so cancer has no place in a discussion about inconsiderate people in doorways (it was brought up a few times) b) your right to not be inconvenienced by smoke because you don't like the smell is equal to any similar arguments about smoke, cologne, BO etc. c) people who smoke in doorways are dicks, that's nothing to do with addictiveness of nicotine.
Several posters have said they shouldn't have to smell it. Ok. First world problems. I don't like stepping in dog#### or dealing with stinky ass people on the train but it happens.