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Originally Posted by Shazam

Ah, the usual jumble of SebC nonsense.

Let's see:

- Bring up a hospital that was blown up ages ago. Forget about the Shumir Centre. Also conveniently forget about the fact that hospitals are provincially funded and managed. Strawman it anyhow because god damn, he can.

- Compare one small project versus an imaginary large one. Forget about things like the Talisman Centre reno, the west LRT, 16th Ave reno, Enmax powerplant, new 4th street underpass, Riverfront Ave reno, Peace bridge, Memorial Drive improvements... Blah blah blah, whatever...

- Forget about the $900million in surplus money that the city has lying around. Perhaps we all got shafted on taxes.

- Oh yeah, the farking airport tunnel. There's $400 million right there. When urban Calgary isn't good enough, take one's ass to Bali on planes fuelled by unicorn laughter. Oh wait...

Not to say that SebC's post wasn't a little sloppy and his arguments a bit tenuous - for the reasons I think you've attempted to outline - but a few of your examples are themselves tenuous (if I am interpreting your intended point correctly).

Paid for (eventually) by Rivers District TIF

Largely argued to be benefiting, enabling and expediting greenfield development. While certainly a debatable point for another day and thread, either way I'd say it's an example that would support SebC's argument long before it would support yours. WestLRT could arguably fall in this category too. That's mostly working off my interpretation of the thrust of your argument. I think you would need to further define what you mean by "urban Calgary" if you think my interpretation might be off.

Suffice to say these things aren't as black and white as "suburbs vs. inner city." Not to say there isn't room for some generalities, but debating their basis has to go a lot deeper.