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Old 07-25-2011, 05:30 PM   #40
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Come back in ten years when Obamacare is actually on the books and the money is actually being spent to fund it.

Easy to compare 8 years to 4 years when the 8 years for Bush are over, and we actually see how much money he spent.

Because at the rate Obama and the Democrats are going, without cuts they'll make Bush look like a child when it comes to spending money.
Two points from the vantage of a fiscally conservative, socially liberal american taxpayer working in healthcare:

1) It is a symptom of the poisonous discourse here in the US that results in people comparing the cost of war to healthcare. Socially and morally the two are not even close considerations for society.

2) "Obamacare" as you call it is actually already having positive benefits in the hospital that I work at. Our hospital has doctors on fixed annual salaries and has always managed to work within Medicare / Medicaid reimbursement. The incentives in the recent legislation have actually spawned a series of collaborations with hospitals in adjacent states that are attempting to migrate their workflow / system to one that matches ours. The gains in the system are coming, but the people who have the most to lose from the changes (private practice conglomerates that overbill / do unnecessary procedures) are losing their sh*t.
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