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Originally Posted by flamesaresmokin
You were ripping on irving for being a middle ranked goalie as far as stats go and for only having won half the games he started.
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No I didn't, hell I flat out said that wins and loses are poor stats upon which to evaluate a goalie. As far as "ripping" goes... if you consider saying that someone was middling to be "ripping" then I think you need to re-evaluate what you consider "ripping". As far as I'm concerned saying that a player was anything short of fantabulas isn't inheriently "ripping" them.
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Originally Posted by flamesaresmokin
Funny that you're not willing to give credit for him leading the league in shutouts, likely because it works against your argument.
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Don't be so presumptious. I don't give much credit for him leading the league in shutouts because...
A: A shutout just means that he stopped 100% of shots on net on a particular night meaning those performances are captured in his SV%, and
B: Raw playing time (which I already gave him credit for) increases the probability of him getting them.
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Originally Posted by flamesaresmokin
The way it pans out is that his numbers are among the best in the ahl for players that actually started a good portion of the season (minus a handful of goalies on top teams, two-three of which are legitimate NHLers).
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Well... his minutes played were the best, his SV% like I said is fairly meh. Not great, not terrible.
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Originally Posted by flamesaresmokin
I'm saying he took a huge step forward and with all things considered had a great season.
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Maybe by your definition of a great season. He didn't meet my definition... your welcome to your opinion, I just disagree with it is all.
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Originally Posted by flamesaresmokin
There's no reason to believe he can't improve on last years numbers with a better team in front of him.
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Well that's true. I don't dislike Irving at all and he could still become a NHL quality starter and in fact hope that he does... I just don't think he's warrented "great season" praise... decent season overall? sure, better season then last?, absolutely. YMMV.