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Originally Posted by flamesaresmokin
You do realize that your comparing Irving to the goalies on the elite teams of the league don't you?
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Not me someone else. Regardless, I don't see what difference that makes. Near as I can tell the Heats issue was scoring more then anything else. I'm not "ripping" on Irving at all... I just think it's some sort of forming myth that he had a "great" season. He had a decent season, not great not terrible. Decent.
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Originally Posted by flamesaresmokin
All but one of the 9 goalies ranked ahead of him play on one of the top teams.
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Sure 9 ahead of him if you want to base it off of GAA. I don't think that GAA is all that good of a statistic. I think SV% is easily the superior metric for evaluating a goalies performace (Wins & Loses are also poor "goalie" stats IMO). Irving was tied for 15th by that standard according to the AHL stat tracker amoung their minute minimum qualifiers.
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Originally Posted by flamesaresmokin
Only 2 of these higher ranked goalies played more then 46 games as well.
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I gave him credit for endurance... I don't know what more you want.
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Originally Posted by flamesaresmokin
If you're going to rip on someone at least look past the obvious before you do it.
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I did look past the obvious... did you?
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Irving also lead the league in shutouts but you fail to mention that (no small feat for an offensively challenged team like the heat).
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It's no small feat that a goalie for an offensively challanged team had shutouts? outside of games going into extra time on a 0-0 score I don't see the correlation. Unless you're assuming that because they were offensively challanged that they were defensively challenged as well. You'd be wrong... Jim Playfair runs a tight ship defensively. Irving faced amoungst the lowest number of average shots against per game in the AHL. trust me I did the basic math the team defense in terms of shot prevention was pretty good.
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Originally Posted by flamesaresmokin
If you don't qualify being a top ten goalie (on a bad team), leading the league in shutouts and playing 75% of the games as a great season for a very young goalie what do you?
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He's not top 10 by every stat just GAA, which as I said I consider inferior to SV% as a goalie stat (that's not to saw that SV% is without flaws but it's got less flaws then other metrics in my estimation), nor do I give much extra credit for shutouts. I would consider a great season to be one where he would prove that he can handle a starters workload (he did) and more importantly prove he can stop pucks at an elite level (he didn't).