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Old 07-14-2011, 10:54 AM   #93
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Mind showing me some proof of these entirely new species? Not just a mutated sub-species like the example of flies or shellfish which are obviously still flies or shellfish.
The science journals have tons of them. Most biology text books will have good examples, and there's tons of good books written to a general audience. If you really want to know then I would recommend Finding Darwin's God (written by Ken Miller who is a believer), or Your Inner Fish by Neil Shubin (which is excellent for an introduction into the genetic evidences).

It would seem though that what you are expecting isn't what evolution actually is. You say an entirely new species, but any species that evolves from a bird or a fly or a shellfish is still going to be a bird or a fly or a shellfish; that's how evolution works.

If you're expecting a donkey to evolve from a human then you don't understand what evolution is in the first place. If a donkey evolved from a human then that would disprove evolution.

One good definition of species is if a population cannot breed with another population and produce viable offspring, then those two populations are different species (of course nature doesn't always fit within simple definitions). In that definition, it has been observed.

EDIT: If you want evolution at a higher level, like dinosaurs to birds or amphibians to reptiles then you need a lot more time and you won't observe that in a lab in real time. But the other evidences all tell the same story of evolution and common descent.

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And I'm disappointed you read that uncalled for personal attack before I deleted it. No, it's not what I was after and I apologize.
Fair enough.
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