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Old 07-14-2011, 10:16 AM   #80
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http://www.skepdic.com/faith.html


A common misconception regarding faith—or perhaps it is an intentional attempt at disinformation and obscurantism—is made by Christian apologists, such as Dr. Richard Spencer, who wrote the following:
A statement like "There is no God, and there can't be a god; everything evolved from purely natural processes" cannot be supported by the scientific method and is a statement of faith, not science (Richard Spencer, Ph.D., associate professor of electrical and computer engineering at UC Davis and faculty adviser to the Christian Student Union. Quoted in The Davis Enterprise, Jan. 22, 1999).
The error or deception here is to imply that anything that is not a scientific statement, i.e., one supported by evidence marshaled forth the way scientists do in support of their scientific claims, is a matter of faith. To use 'faith' in such a broad way is to strip it of any theological significance the term might otherwise have.

Physicist Bob Park explains this difference in a way even the most devious casuist should understand. The Oxford Concise English Dictionary, he notes, gives two distinct meanings for faith:
"1) complete trust or confidence, and 2) strong belief in a religion based on spiritual conviction rather than proof." A scientist's "faith" is built on experimental proof. The two meanings of the word "faith," therefore, are not only different, they are exact opposites
Nice try at differentiating the two "faiths." Especially like your unbiased source

Belief in evolution is the epitome of having "faith" in something which has not been substantiated.

It has been decades, and extensive mutation research in animals and plants has never resulted in an original species being transformed into an entirely new one. Bear in mind, these are scientists conducting experiments under favorable artificially created conditions. But random chance just happened to do it, right?

There's your faith.

And it's laughable that evolutionists attempt to discredit those that distinguish between micro- and macro- evolution.

It's almost like saying a human baby will eventually grow into a human adult, and given enough time would turn into a donkey.

Species have real genetic boundaries, and believing they can be accidentally transgressed takes a whole lot more faith.

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