[Thor]

I think a lot of the men who are siding with Dawkins and many of the responders to this whole argument are probably frustrated with how women in the west want seemingly a strong man with confidence and at the same time a sensitive wimp who should know better than to dare speak to a woman in an elevator (WTF were you thinking dude.)

We'll never know how he behaved truly, his body language, was he drunk, had he been creepy all night at the bar, etc..

But what I'm getting from many of the guys upset at all this is the frustration we all feel after these last decades of being molded into a modern 'man' who is supposed to be something that a modern western woman wants us to be.

This whole thing frustrates me, maybe because of the post about being asked by a woman to leave a park because she and her child felt uncomfortable; I felt genuinely sick to my stomach imagining how he must have felt. Men are so easily made out to be bad guys and potential rapists/molesters these days because yes these things still happen and its sad that it does.

Gender studies are a great idea, there seems to be for many women a real disconnect between what they think they want from men and what they are attracted to. If all men tomorrow stopped making the first move on women, I wonder how long it would be before the feminists started to think differently about some of their ideas.

As a man in these times you get frustrated because your damned if you do, and damned if you don't. Either way we're the bad guy, its a no win situation.