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Originally Posted by jar_e
I mean no disrespect to you dt, but cops all over Canada are trained knife = gun from a response perspective. Any sort of "hand to hand" combat with a knife is simply to deflect a slash/stab and than draw your firearm in close quarters with short distance between yourself and the offender and firing.
I'm not sure how long you experienced this training or what, but the way things aren't like that now.
Furthermore, if it truly was a ricochet, I'd be curious on ammunition type, as the majority of law enforcement ammunition is designed to avoid ricochet and "mushroom" upon impact.
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If you read what I wrote you will see that I said guns would be drawn when a knife came out. What I stated was that you cannot shoot a person who is running from you if he has a knife but at that moment is not threatening the safety nor lives of anybody. You can't do it. Most of the fellow students and officers I trained with would almost always resort to another tactic when dealing with a knife other than lethal force. Can you use lethal force if your life is threatened by a man wielding a knife. Absolutely. You can also with multiple officers restrain him, spray him, tase him, or do anything else in your power to take down the offender without loss of life. Is it riskier that way? You bet but that comes with that career. You are there to protect and serve the public and the last thing you want to do is kill somebody if it doesn't have to happen, even if you have the right to. The bottom line is it sounds like there was 4 officers who were trying to do it the right way, they are in a downtown district and buddy pulls a knife and they probably pulled their firearms and told him to drop the weapon and get down. Buddy takes off instead and they pursue him and during the pursuit one of those officers did the wrong thing and started shooting. Now unless the guy was running at people swinging that knife or endangering somebody he did the wrong thing and someone innocent ended up dead because of it. Then again, maybe he looked like he was going to attack somebody, I wasn't there but it seems kinda far fetched that this guy is running from the cops and all the sudden starts threatening people while running. The SIU will get the whole story and they will decide in the end.