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Originally Posted by Fozzie_DeBear
I have a huge problem with an omnipotent, omnipresent, all-powerful God with free will ever since I took a philosophy of religion class. At the same time some basic questions are still puzzling to my alcohol damaged, slightly-evolved monkey brain, such as:
-How did the laws of math, physics, geometry and science get established? Science seeks to understand these concepts, but what is their origin? Did they always exist? Were they always the same (some scientists believe that the laws of physics changed during the Big Bang)
-If everything is caused to happen by something else (basic cause and effect). Everything in this moment was caused by what happened in the last moment. If you go back in the sieries of events far enough, all the way to the beginning something had to cause the very first effect WITHOUT being caused itself. The prime mover argument Cheese, I'd like your take on that one.
So I believe in an all powerful God father figure with a big bushy beard? Nope, seems like mythology to me. Do I believe in some kind of higher power/system...yeah I do.
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The question that would create would be...who created the "first cause" or God based on their item
1. Everything has a cause.
I believe science will eventually unravel the mystery. One thing is for sure though...science is allowed to change to suit different ideas...religion is stagnant and is no better than rigor mortis. There is no room to move beyond that of "there is a God".
Here's another persons version of how the Universe started...
The Simplicity of Existence