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Originally Posted by Cowperson
There are no first hand accounts from the period that Jesus is purported to have lived. There are no contemporary Roman records of such.
As far as I know, I have never argued on this board in support of a position saying Jesus existed. Make it a project to find it because I'd certainly be interested. I'm usually pretty consistent about these things.
How can you prove Plato existed? or Solomon? or any other sinificant historical person?
Attempting to cloud the issue? If you want to start a thread and a court case on whether Plato, Socrates or Soloman existed, then please do so. We'll debate them one by one and no doubt we'd agree on some and maybe not on others. That, of course, has nothing to do with what we're talking about in this thread.
Cowperson
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Matthew, Mark, Luke and John provide first hand accounts of the time Jesus was purported to have existed as you put it. They spent 3 years with Jesus. I guess you can say they all lied and made up their writings from thin air, but if that is the case you can say that about any ancient historical writings.
There are Roman records, I will try and find some sources for you. (and the guy above you) There are Jewish records as well, which I will find for you.
I will need help finding items on the old board, to find your statements regarding this issue. It stood out to me, I am pretty sure it was your comments that surprise me.
Clouding th issue with Plato
Not true. I just wonder what constitutes proof. No of us have seen or heard Plato, or the wind or the forces that hold together the nucleus of an atom, but we all assume they exist because of what people wrote and the effects they produce.
I wonder what would constitute 'proof' of Jesus' existence other than his effects 2040 years later or else what people wrote about him. I may be fighting a battle that can't be won based on your definition of proof.