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Originally Posted by Thor
Absolutely intrusive legislation IF there is no medical reason for it. Sounds like its used solely for the purpose of trying to convince the woman out of her decision.
All very reasonable if medically necessary for her to have the sonogram.
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I don't pretend to be a doctor and I'm assuming you aren't either. Therefore I can't say if they would be doing an ultrasound with or without the law anyway. I would think it would be done as part of the professionals due diligence to make sure the abortion would go smoothly but that's peer speculation on my part. Maybe I should ask my wife (who is a physician) her thoughts on that when I go home.
Update: I did check into the ultrasound and it sounds like an ultrasound is a standard operating procedure to for an abortion to determine gestational age and because gestational age determines the exact procedure, and whether or not the clinic can even do it. Sidenote: I'm not a doctor nor do I even have a clue what I just said but it sounds like ultrasounds are kind of required to properly perfom an abortion anyway.
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Originally Posted by Thor
Not reasonable, big government intruding itself into the vagina of women  |
Okay I'm confused. That portion provided exceptions for women in those situations to not have the explanation etc. Don't know what that has to do with big government.
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Originally Posted by Thor
Which is whats wrong with this legislation. You approach this from the side of hoping this dissuades her to drop the abortion, while the rest of us see it as another attempt to pressure women out of an abortion by the pro life lobby.
The fact she has to have a sonogram, by the way which is done by a trans vaginal probe is stepping beyond what a government should legislate. Its not the job of government to step in here, she has the legal right, she shouldn't be forced to have the sonogram unless there is a medically important reason, other than to help dissuade the woman.
But since you approach this from a religious viewpoint will either of us change our minds or change each others?
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See you assume that the religious viewpoint is the biggest factor in my argument here, when that isn't a fact. Does it have an impact, yes, because I don't think innocent human being should be murdered. Do I hope the description of the development of the baby would influence the womans decision yes. But that's more because I think that it is relevant information to what she is going to have done. Again why is giving this description (relevant information) considered an obsticle. Are you worried that the women won't have an abortion because she knows that a child has a heartbeat, and arms and legs are forming?
As for the type of ultrasound again, I'm not a doctor so I don't know what type of ultrasound is done. Do you know for a fact that it is always trans vaginal probe or is this based upon circumstances?