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Old 05-26-2011, 12:12 PM   #149
Mean Mr. Mustard
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Originally Posted by Calgaryborn View Post
Thor I will agree that this probe is intrusive if it is only administered because of this law. We don't know this. An abortion is a medical procedure with many risks. I find it highly unlikely one would be preformed without somehow viewing the uterus before hand. This probe might be the only safe and cheap way to do this.

The other thing you might not have considered is these nurses and Doctors make their money through the business of preforming abortions. They probably have a high level of commitment to what they see as the benefits of their work. Those 2 factors don't make these professionals the best candidates to council a young women making such an important decision. The fact that lawmakers felt they needed to pass a law that compelled these professionals to provide certain information upon request suggests there have been problems.

Government guidelines that include manditory disclosers and optional ones is reasonable.

1. Don't speak for Doctors and Nurses and the education and counseling they do with women before having an abortion. From the people I have talked to that work in abortion clinics they do discuss the different options with the client.

2. I have relatives who have Huntington's chorea - if she has a child the child will have a 50% chance of having a fatal disease which I wouldn't wish upon anyone. Why should she have to pay extra money for the possibility of having to have an abortion, not because she made a mistake or she was raped, but because she wants to have healthy children who won't die of a debilitating and horrible disease. Why should she have to jump through hoops to satisfy your religious beliefs? But most importantly - why do you think it is right to force someone extra heartache and pain because they can't have a healthy child and they are going through hell because of that?

I hope you actually do think about that, although I doubt you will.

3. Don't tell someone who has been raped how to act and what they should do. Yeah thinking about it logically - they should get an ECP but you know what, people who have gone through a traumatizing experience, often at the hands of someone they know, they don't think logically. They do this small thing called trying to repress awful memories. As someone who is not in that position and never will be in that position I have no idea why you think you should be telling someone exactly what to do.

4. I do know some people get abortions as a means of birth control - I think she is crazy, legitimately crazy, but she is the last person who I would want as a mother raising the damn child. Sure she could put it into social care but that costs hundreds of thousands if not millions more than an abortion - so from a financial standpoint that argument is awful. Really the only argument you can effectively make is from a religious or an ethical standpoint.

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