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Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

You don't believe in God yet you slander Him. Not very rational.

Actually I'm pointing out the fact those who believe in him also have to account for the truth that naturally without human intervention and ingenuity fetuses and babies are aborted all the time, so if you believe in god you have to square this with your belief. Its his mysterous plan I'm sure.

The infant mortality rate in the States would be much higher if they included aborted children in that number and of course the vast majority of them are preventable.

Rates of abortions in the US aren't far off all other western nations, which don't account abortions in their infant mortality rates, and naturally occurring miscarriages. So this is a pointless thing to say.

What you and other conservative Jesus followers need to ask yourselves why you fight so hard to keep poor people suffering, those without health care continuing to suffer and all the while propping up rich people. Not very Jesus like is it.

Planned Parenthood promotes abortion and also uses their mostly government funded organization as a political tool. They should lose all government funding.

Again, the misinformation you get must be staggering. They help women with contraception, STD's, planning parenthood (weird name for them), and in very minor cases abortions (3%, not 93% which is not meant to be factual ). They help women, and the vast majority of their work has nothing to do with abortions, its education, and resources. But of course since they don't just preach abstinence and do a very limited number of abortions you have to throw all of their excellent work out the window right?

If by more difficult you mean pay for it yourself(not making me pay for this killing) then you are right. If by more difficult you mean the mother would find more difficulty in killing her unborn if she could see him/her on an ultrasound than yah your right. What niether of those laws do is prevent a women from chosing to abort her child.

I'm perfectly fine with no government funding of abortions. Neat how conservatives want government out of our lives and intruding on our freedoms. The suggestion the first lady wanting our kids to eat healthier was met by outrage on the right calling it intrusive of our freedoms. How then do you square forcing pregnant mothers to watch a video, have an ultrasound, be yelled at, called names... (some of that was a joke.)

No one is forcing these mothers to watching a video. No one is forcing these women to go out of State to get their abortions.

Not yet, attempts are being made, and more and more clinics close because of the difficulty in running them. We all know what happens when one opens up, protests, death threats, and sometimes killings/bombings.

The second law requires an ultrasound be preformed and provided to the mother before the procedure is done. Nobody can deny that many women abort a child in a moment of crisis and live to regret it later. Helping her make a more informed decision is not a bad thing. If she really is bothered by a fuzzy picture of her unborn child than maybe abortion isn't the right chose for her.

The doctor is there for that, and thats enough. You shouldn't mandate or legislate anything to force the woman to do anything, where is your outrage on this form of big brother government? Oh thats right only when its a democratic policy will you be upset.