[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally Posted by arsenal

I never said controlling who recieves a weapon shouldn't be controlled. Do I think a mentally unstable person should have access to weapons? Nope. Should I have access to weapons if I am a responsable adult? Yep.

If you take away weapons from those incapable of using them, why do you need access to weapons if you are a responsible adult? Unless you are a hunter, and live off the land, why do you need a weapon of any sort? You kind of defeat your case.

Unfortunately there are plenty of people out there that are very responsible, that have guns, and make irrational decisions during moments of weakness and kill others because of their access to the weapon. These same people would still likely find another weapon other than a gun to do harm to another, but it would at least give the victim a fighting chance for survival. Very seldom does someone survive an attack from a gunman.

Again, it is not so much the hand guns persay, it is the principle. I am sure you read over the rest of the posts here, and chose to ignore them. If you are going to ban hand guns, becuase they can be used to irresponsible people to kill other people. Then you better ban cars and alchohol as well. Becuase those are used by irresponsible people to kill other other people.

That is one of the weakest arguments I have ever heard in my life, and one of the stupidest too boot. Ban cars because "drunk drivers" kill people. Uh huh. Cars are designed to transport people, and when used appropriately do that without little damage to others. Only through the irresponsible use of a vehicle do they kill. Guns, OTOH, are designed for one purpose. To KILL. Even in the hands of the most expert marksmen attempting to just wound, a gun shot is very likely going to kill the recipient of the bullet. Guns were designed to kill, plain and simple.

So, wouldn't you like watch and view what you choose? And not have it fed to you? You of all people would love this, since you are the biggest proponent of free speech on this board are you not?

Guess what, I don't get to watch and view what I choose in the United States either. The airways in the US are just as regulated as they are in Canada. While I firmly believe in free speech I also am a staunch believer in doing what is best for society. Getting those who would spread disinformation and lies off the airways (that means YOU FoxNEWS, hehe) and those that promote hate and intolerance (that means YOU Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh, hehe) is a service to the common good of the community. I support that fully. There is a very fine line between free speech and dispersion of hateful rhetoric. I think it is wise to have a body in place that guards against those incidents from happening.

But they don't exist in all states. The states that they do exist in are Dem states.

Bull****! Florida is a Dem state? Better tell Jeb Bush (a NeoConservative) that his state is really blue, and not the deep crimson red he likes to promote. But nice try in turning your little tirade into a Democrat versus Republican or Liberal versus Conservative battle.

Nissan Skyline, Lancer Evolution are 2 of them. While it is perfectly OK to import a vehicle that is 15 years old. What sense does that make? I figure the older cars are going to be more dangerous than the newer ones.

So you're offended that a car which doesn't meet safety standards is not allowed into the country? How do you enjoy driving around your '76 Pinto anyways?

I never said Day Care is bad. One where the only choice is a government funded, controlled day care is bad. Again, another choice made for me, by the Government.

Sometimes choices have to be made for you by the government. You know, like spending a trillion dollars on defense. Last time I looked that wasn't on my shopping list of needs, but do you see me ****ing in the pool because the government sees the value in that? Personally I think they should reconsider and spend some of that money on day care and heath care. I think its more wise in trying to keep your OWN citizens a live, and improve their lifestyle, than invade other countries and kill others. But hey, that's just me. A humanist until the bitter end.

What do I care if what I am doing in my life is being monitored? I still have the freedom to do what I choose. If I happen to do something illegal, the chances of me getting caught are greater. Right now, there are still alot of freedoms available to me. They are still waiting for me to commit the crime, before arresting me. The flip side is controlling and conditioning people so that they cannot commit crimes.

Wait a second? You have been rambling on about personal freedoms, yet you think its okay that the government eavedrops on everything you say or do? And you think that doesn't curb your freedoms? WTF is freedom to you? Shooting a gun is freedom, but having a conversation free from prying earing is not? Man, you have one ****ed up sense of reality. When you can't have a conversation with someone without it being monitored you have lost all you personal personal freedoms and civil liberties, no matter how many guns you have stashed in your closet. Thinking otherwise is just... undescribable!