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Old 05-19-2011, 01:03 AM   #118
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Originally Posted by IliketoPuck View Post
That is quite the hypothetical situation, yet still does nothing to further the debate in this thread. I could have changed a few words in it and fit it into the Canadian Election thread in response to small "l" Liberals bemoaning Harper getting a majority government.

You seem like a fairly logical person, and I'm happy that you have beliefs that you can rely on, that's a great thing.

I'm curious what your opinion is on my belief that the Church, and the bible more specifically is a man-made creation that was designed to help control the masses through a mixture of fear and promise. At the end of the day religion never has to deliver on any of its promises, that is the best thing about it, no one will ever know if there really is something after death, because (you guessed it) you are dead and can't bring your receipt back for a full refund.

But it is probably a better idea to blindly follow what a man with a goofy hat says, and make sure you pass along a nice tithe so that he has a warm place to sleep at night. If you don't, the bible says you don't get to come to God's birthday party, you have to sit outside and have someone burn you and poke you with pitchforks instead.

Sorry for the sarcasm, religious debates really bring out the worst in me.

But in all honesty, tell me what you think about my opinion on the bible, I am interested in your side of things.
I agree with you that man over the centuries has incorrectly used the Bible to to "help control the masses through a mixture of fear and promise." It's exactly why the the Romans mixed their pagan rituals along with Christianity. To placate them. I'm sure everyone here really knows the real origin of Christmas.

But I do believe that God used man to write the Bible as His Word. I could point out to prophecies that were written hundreds of years in advance and then fulfilled, but then all I'll hear is, "it was written after the fact" and such. I could point to when the Bible books were written and then others would say that it wasn't dated properly. I could point out how historians at times denied the existence of certain rulers, cities, or events that transpired, but then archeological evidence validated the Bible. I could point out how the Bible spoke about the earth hanging upon nothing or being a sphere thousands of years before science confirmed it, but it still would be to no avail because some will somehow take issue with that as well.

If people don't want to believe in something, they'll find every reason not to despite glaring proof otherwise.

I realize the same could be thought of me in return.
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